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Fri, Oct 9 2009 11:28 PM | Permanent Link |
Tony Pomfrett | Hi,
I have a question about the behaviour of a DBISAM client application in a client/server environment. Below is sample code taken from the manual to show how to do transactions. The code runs in the client application. My question is what happens if the client loses its connection to the server after calling StartTransaction but before calling Commit as indicated below. Does this then mean that the database will remain locked forever? The code in the Except and Finally sections cannot run because the client can no longer communicate with the server. Is it possible to run this code in a server side procedure instead to minimise the chances of this type of disruption? ============================ var TablesList: TStrings; begin TablesList:=TStringList.Create; try with MyDatabase do begin TablesList.Add('Customer'); TablesList.Add('Orders'); StartTransaction(TablesList); try { Perform some updates to the table(s) in the transaction } >>>>>> Client loses connection to server here >>>>>> Commit; except Rollback; raise; end; finally TablesList.Free; end; end; ==================================== |
Sat, Oct 10 2009 2:37 PM | Permanent Link |
"Raul" | What you need to ensure is that server will detect and clean up the dead
sessions quickly and thus will roll the transaction back. StartTransaction simply places locks on tables but nothing is actually written to tables til commit - so killing the dead session will result in locks being released and data still being intact. No other client write while locks are active (but they can read) so you just need to build some retry logic into your code to "wait and try-again" if locking error occurrs. Look at server settings ConnectTimeout and especially DeadSessionExpires. Also enable RemotePing on your session and set it to a reasonable value for you - now you can set the DeadSessionExpires to something low (low multiple of RemotePing value for example). You can definitely write a serevr side procedure as well - however server-side procedures are executed in the context of session thread of the session and do pass results and progress back. I don't know what happens if session drops while server-side procedure is executing. However. server-side procedure should run much faster (local data access) and will likely complete before the dead session is cleaned up by server.However maybe somebody else can comment on server-side procedure behaviour with client disconnect or you can just test it. Raul "Tony Pomfrett" <tonyp@aline.com.au> wrote in message news:B2BB8243-B859-44CB-8931-CD4F77C0265E@news.elevatesoft.com... > Hi, > > I have a question about the behaviour of a DBISAM client application in a > client/server environment. > > Below is sample code taken from the manual to show how to do transactions. > The code runs in the client application. > My question is what happens if the client loses its connection to the > server after calling StartTransaction but before calling Commit as > indicated below. > Does this then mean that the database will remain locked forever? The code > in the Except and Finally sections cannot run because the client can no > longer communicate with the server. > > Is it possible to run this code in a server side procedure instead to > minimise the chances of this type of disruption? > > > ============================ > > var > TablesList: TStrings; > begin > TablesList:=TStringList.Create; > try > with MyDatabase do > begin > TablesList.Add('Customer'); > TablesList.Add('Orders'); > StartTransaction(TablesList); > try > { Perform some updates to the table(s) in the transaction } > >>>>>>> Client loses connection to server here >>>>>> > > Commit; > except > Rollback; > raise; > end; > finally > TablesList.Free; > end; > end; > > ==================================== > |
Sat, Oct 10 2009 4:16 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. ![]() | Tony,
<< My question is what happens if the client loses its connection to the server after calling StartTransaction but before calling Commit as indicated below. Does this then mean that the database will remain locked forever? The code in the Except and Finally sections cannot run because the client can no longer communicate with the server. >> No, the database will remain locked as long as the session is present on the database server, which is, by default, defined by the Dead Session Expiration setting on the database server. The default setting is fairly large, but you can bump this down to just 30 seconds after enabling pinging in the client application's remote TDBISAMSession via the RemotePing property: http://www.elevatesoft.com/manual?action=mancompprop&id=dbisam4&product=d&version=7&comp=TDBISAMSession&prop=RemotePing After you have set up pinging for the client application, you can then bump down the Dead Session Expiration time so that sessions are removed within 30 seconds of being disconnected by the database server. << Is it possible to run this code in a server side procedure instead to minimise the chances of this type of disruption? >> Sure, any client-side Delphi code can be run as a server-side procedure. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Sat, Oct 10 2009 4:21 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. ![]() | Raul,
<< You can definitely write a serevr side procedure as well - however server-side procedures are executed in the context of session thread of the session and do pass results and progress back. >> Passing progress back to the client is optional, and if the results don't make it back to the client, it doesn't really matter - the procedure will have already executed (and committed) at that point. << I don't know what happens if session drops while server-side procedure is executing. >> If the server-side procedure tries to send progress back to the client, then it will possibly get back an abort status due to the connection being dropped. However, it is strictly up to the server-side procedure whether to actually abort or not in such a case. It could choose to always ignore the abort status of the progress update. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Sat, Oct 10 2009 5:24 PM | Permanent Link |
Tony Pomfrett | Thanks Tim and Raul....
Would not the ConnectTimeOut setting be critical? I already had RemotePing enabled and set at 60 seconds. ConnectTimeOut is set at 300 seconds. The Dead Session Expiration however, was set at 12 hours. Should I set ConnectTimeOut lower than 300 seconds? I have clients connecting over the Internet so it's entirely possible that a few pings will not succeed. At 300 seconds I am allowing for 5 consecutive unsuccessful pings which seems reasonable. |
Sat, Oct 10 2009 8:16 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. ![]() | Tony,
<< Would not the ConnectTimeOut setting be critical? I already had RemotePing enabled and set at 60 seconds. ConnectTimeOut is set at 300 seconds. The Dead Session Expiration however, was set at 12 hours. Should I set ConnectTimeOut lower than 300 seconds? I have clients connecting over the Internet so it's entirely possible that a few pings will not succeed. At 300 seconds I am allowing for 5 consecutive unsuccessful pings which seems reasonable. >> You can certainly lower the connection timeout in the server configuration. As long as it is higher than the ping interval, you should be fine, but your mileage may vary once actually implemented, so you might want to keep it at 120 secs or so just to make sure. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Sat, Oct 10 2009 9:24 PM | Permanent Link |
Tony Pomfrett | Tim,
Almost all my users, both local network and Internet, are using notebooks. Notebooks by default are configured to go into sleep mode after a period of user inactivity. This is a real problem because those sessions will be disconnected after 330 seconds and the user will experience an error when they try to continue. When the Dead Session Expiration was set at 12 hours it presumably meant that notebook users could allow the notebooks to go into sleep mode. Unfortunately, it probably also meant that stuck locks would hang around for 12 hours also. I guess the solution is to have a short Dead Session Expiration but include code to gracefully reconnect without restarting the software. Something like a message box asking the user to standby while their session is re-established or maybe telling them they are disconnected and giving the option of restarting, reconnection or shutting down. Although, in my case, reconnection would require reloading tables and re-initialising some variables so it's probably just as easy to restart the software. So maybe a message box with 2 choices "restart" or "shutdown" would be appropriate? Is reconnection on the fly, without restarting, desirable or even possible? |
Sun, Oct 11 2009 9:57 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. ![]() | Tony,
<< I guess the solution is to have a short Dead Session Expiration but include code to gracefully reconnect without starting the software. Something like a message box asking the user to standby while their session is re-established or maybe telling them they are disconnected and giving the option of restarting, reconnection or shutting down. Although, in my case, reconnection would require reloading tables and re-initialising some variables so it's probably just as easy to restart the software. So maybe a message box with 2 choices "restart" or "shutdown" would be appropriate? Is reconnection on the fly, without restarting, desirable or even possible? >> Yes, but you'll have to manage it since the session will have been removed already on the database server. The main thing is to make sure to disconnect the remote session, which will close everything (databases, tables, etc.), and then set everything back up again. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
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