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Tue, Jan 8 2008 2:27 AM | Permanent Link |
Pat | Hi,
I am using a TwwDBLookupCombo and the lookup table (and all other tables) is on a file server. It works fine but one of the tables has 25,000 records and the auto complete function is rather slow. OK so I thought when the form opens, I should copy all the 25k records to a local table/memory table and that will speed things up. I would like opions of which is more suitable - a disk based table or a memory table? I will be using this particular type of lookup combo on about 4 different forms, so I guess I make a local table/memory table (of the 25k records) and every time I open one of the 4 forms, I just copy from this local table into another local lookup table? Is there a better way to accomplish this? thanks, Pat |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 3:13 AM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates ![]() | Pat
A memory table is great IF it doesn't change, or at least doesn't change much. If it does then you'll probably find that the check to see it its changed and the moving of the data will slow things down even worse. Also if its the same table you're using in each form just have one version in memory - after all DBISAM treats it like a disk table. Roy Lambert |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 5:46 AM | Permanent Link |
Pat | Roy,
>... you'll probably find that the check to see it its changed and the moving of the data will slow things down even worse. I thought to let the user do a manual refresh if the record he is expecting is not found in the dropdown. Maybe the trade-off between 'speed' and 'record not found' is OK >Also if its the same table you're using in each form just have one version in memory I thought if the TwwDBLookupCombo on one form was using the table and then another form's TwwDBLookupCombo (based on the same table) changed its selected record, it would change the selected record on the first form somehow. Are you saying mutiple TwwDBLookupCombos on different forms can share the same LookUp table at the same time without interference? thanks Roy, Pat |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 6:34 AM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates ![]() | Pat
>I thought if the TwwDBLookupCombo on one form was using the table and >then another form's TwwDBLookupCombo (based on the same table) changed >its selected record, it would change the selected record on the first >form somehow. Are you saying mutiple TwwDBLookupCombos on different >forms can share the same LookUp table at the same time without >interference? I don't use those components, but if it works with a disk table it'll work with a memory table. At present do you have four copies of this lookup table? Roy Lambert |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 7:27 AM | Permanent Link |
Pat | Roy,
>> ... Are you saying mutiple TwwDBLookupCombos on different >>forms can share the same LookUp table at the same time without >>interference? > >I don't use those components, but if it works with a disk table it'll work with a memory table. At present do you have four copies of this lookup table? No not at present. Each of my four forms has a TDBISAMTable (v3.27) on it as the LookUp control (pointing to the table on the file server). So thinking ahead, I thought when my application starts up, it loads the 25k records into a memory table (call it tblMainLookUp). This table would be used as the LookUp for the combos on the four forms. So, for each combo LookUpTable property I would have frmMyMainForm.tblMainLookUp I am not sure though if say on Form1 combo I select record #1 and then on Form2 combo I select record #2, if Form1 combo will change to record #2 by itself. In other words, since the LookUp table is on the main form, if I select a combo record on one form, does this change the selected combo record on the other form (since they share the same memory LookUp table). Maybe something to do with pointers or bookmarks, I don't know. I could set it up and test it, but I wanted to 'test the water' here first ![]() Pat |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 8:04 AM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates ![]() | Pat
>No not at present. Each of my four forms has a TDBISAMTable (v3.27) on >it as the LookUp control (pointing to the table on the file server). Great. The main point to remember is that an in-memory table is THE SAME AS an on-disk table as far as DBISAM is concerned. >So thinking ahead, I thought when my application starts up, it loads >the 25k records into a memory table (call it tblMainLookUp). This >table would be used as the LookUp for the combos on the four forms. >So, for each combo LookUpTable property I would have >frmMyMainForm.tblMainLookUp That sound right. I'd prefer to use a datamodule for sharing the table unless you have a reason for referencing the mainform in the other forms. >I am not sure though if say on Form1 combo I select record #1 and then >on Form2 combo I select record #2, if Form1 combo will change to >record #2 by itself. If it doesn't do it for an on-disk table it won't for an in-memory one. Roy Lambert |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 10:33 AM | Permanent Link |
Chris Erdal | Pat <pat@downunder.com> wrote in
news:n2p6o39ot6j5i6u705uhp49q5v8gslm0i6@4ax.com: >>> ... Are you saying mutiple TwwDBLookupCombos on different >>>forms can share the same LookUp table at the same time without >>>interference? Pat, You're mixing up database tables and TDBISAMTables - you fill one database memory table with your copy of the real table, and then you add as many TDBISAMTable componenets to your Form or DataModule as you need, one for each Combo, all looking at the same memory table. It's the TDBISAMTables that have separate cursors and thus prevent interference. -- Chris (XP-Pro + Delphi 7 Architect + DBISAM 4.25 build 4 + EDB 1.04 build 3) |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 11:38 AM | Permanent Link |
"David Farrell-Garcia" | As you have found out, using a Lookup table on a WAN or even a LAN is
not going to give optimal performance. Most developers load lookup tables at application startup. What I did was create a base class lookup datamodule that keeps a reference count which is incremented each time a form needs to use that lookkup table and decremted when the callng form is destroyed. I inherit this base class for each lookup table needed. If the lookup lists will be small, it loads them and keeps them in loaded for the duration of the application. If the lookup list is large, then the logic keeps the table open as long as there is a reference to it. I use Clientdatasets to hold cache the lookkup data locally. If a maintenance form updates something in a lookup list it will automatically refresh the table making the updated list available immediatly to all calling forms. And yes, I do use the wwDBLookupCombo componet which works with any TDataset based component such as the ClientDataSet or Dbisam table components. -- David Farrell-Garcia Whidbey Island Software, LLC |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 12:11 PM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates ![]() | David
>If a maintenance form updates something in a >lookup list it will automatically refresh the table making the updated >list available immediatly to all calling forms. This bit interests me - how do you do it? Roy Lambert |
Tue, Jan 8 2008 9:19 PM | Permanent Link |
"Al VAs" | 'I am using a TwwDBLookupCombo and the lookup table (and all other
tables) is on a file server. It works fine but one of the tables has 25,000 records and the auto complete function is rather slow.' This surprises me a bit Pat. We use Woll2Woll components extensively and as long as you have an index on the item that is being auto-completed, I have found it works extremely quickly. Have you checked that the table is indexed on the field being displayed in the drop-down? Alex |
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