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Controls provided with EWB2 |
Mon, Jan 26 2015 8:14 AM | Permanent Link |
Rick | Hi.
The EWB2 roadmap lists the following supplied controls: tabbed notebook, menu, date/time picker. Any chance of getting an early list of other controls that will be included? Sorry for the impatience. -- Rick |
Mon, Jan 26 2015 2:18 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Rick,
<< Any chance of getting an early list of other controls that will be included? >> The only other really extra ones are the TToolBar, TBasicPanel, and TGroupPanel controls. But, there are several other controls that used to be property options within existing controls. For example, there's a TPasswordEdit now instead of a TEdit with a Password property. There's also a TButtonComboBox for combo boxes that can't be edited (think mobile where you don't want the soft keyboard popping up). There's also a TDialogEditComboBox instead of a Custom property. Also, the TMenu may not make it into the initial release. I'll have to see what kind of time I have. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Tue, Jan 27 2015 1:48 AM | Permanent Link |
Rick | On 27/01/15 06:18, Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
> > The only other really extra ones are the TToolBar, TBasicPanel, and > TGroupPanel controls. But, there are several other controls that used > to be property options within existing controls. For example, there's a > TPasswordEdit now instead of a TEdit with a Password property. There's > also a TButtonComboBox for combo boxes that can't be edited (think > mobile where you don't want the soft keyboard popping up). There's also > a TDialogEditComboBox instead of a Custom property. > > Also, the TMenu may not make it into the initial release. I'll have to > see what kind of time I have. > Thanks for the info Tim. Now to start thinking about a TTreeView and a TProgressBar and maybe a TStatusBar. Could also be plenty of scope for an "EWB2 Component Design" book. You'd probably sell a million! By the way, will the new TGrid have fixed columns as well as rows? Will the TForm/TPanel be mouse re-sizable at runtime now that the layout capability allows for fluid control sizing? Can you tell that I can't wait? Sorry, I'll shut up now. -- Rick |
Tue, Jan 27 2015 4:06 AM | Permanent Link |
Matthew Jones | Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
> For example, there's a TPasswordEdit now instead of a TEdit with a > Password property. Can the password "hide" be turned off? That's important for some purposes. |
Tue, Jan 27 2015 6:22 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Matthew,
<< Can the password "hide" be turned off? That's important for some purposes. >> No, you'll have to switch controls in order to do so. Password inputs have a very specific purpose in HTML and the browser do all sorts of special things with them now in terms of auto-complete, etc. so I don't want to mix up the two anymore. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Tue, Jan 27 2015 6:29 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Rick,
<< Thanks for the info Tim. Now to start thinking about a TTreeView and a TProgressBar and maybe a TStatusBar. >> Actually, the TProgressBar is already done. It's left out for now due to it being included in my first control creation video for the preview. After that it will be included in the standard control set. Look for a post about the video some time today. << By the way, will the new TGrid have fixed columns as well as rows? Will the TForm/TPanel be mouse re-sizable at runtime now that the layout capability allows for fluid control sizing? >> Both are things that are being kept in mind, but expect the initial controls to be pretty much the same as their EWB 1 counterparts in terms of control-specific behaviors. The one big change with the grids will be the fact that they will be virtual (TListBox controls are also virtual). I might include form re-sizing in the first release, but I have to see what kind of time I have in the next month. Once I get the grid done, I should know more about what kind of time I have. In general, the amount of code required for most new controls is practically miniscule compared to EWB1, so hopefully it won't take too long. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Tue, Jan 27 2015 6:45 AM | Permanent Link |
Rick | On 27/01/15 22:29, Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
> > Look for a post about the video some time today. > Great stuff Tim, looking forward to the video. > > Both are things that are being kept in mind, but expect the initial > controls to be pretty much the same as their EWB 1 counterparts in terms > of control-specific behaviors. The one big change with the grids will > be the fact that they will be virtual (TListBox controls are also > virtual). I might include form re-sizing in the first release, but I > have to see what kind of time I have in the next month. Once I get the > grid done, I should know more about what kind of time I have. In > general, the amount of code required for most new controls is > practically miniscule compared to EWB1, so hopefully it won't take too > long. > Virtualized grid sounds perfect. Will be great for performance. I notice on the current component developers preview youtube video that forms have an up and down button next to the close button at run time. What do these do? -- Rick |
Tue, Jan 27 2015 7:18 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Rick,
<< Virtualized grid sounds perfect. Will be great for performance. >> The list boxes seem to be pretty snappy with it, so hopefully it will do the same for the grids. There will probably still be issues with having too many columns, but that's easier to address for the developer. << I notice on the current component developers preview youtube video that forms have an up and down button next to the close button at run time. What do these do? >> Minimize/maximize. They're not super-useful for forms, but are useful for panels. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Tue, Jan 27 2015 7:55 PM | Permanent Link |
Rick | On 27/01/15 22:29, Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
> > Actually, the TProgressBar is already done. It's left out for now due > to it being included in my first control creation video for the > preview. After that it will be included in the standard control set. > Tim, do you have some sort of roadmap or list of controls that you intend on including with future releases of EWB as part of the standard set? I know that there's no problem doubling up but I would prefer not to go ahead and create a particular control (e.g. treeview) if you will be providing something similar in the near future. -- Rick |
Wed, Jan 28 2015 7:13 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Rick,
<< Tim, do you have some sort of roadmap or list of controls that you intend on including with future releases of EWB as part of the standard set? >> Not yet, but I'll see if I can put something together. << I know that there's no problem doubling up but I would prefer not to go ahead and create a particular control (e.g. treeview) if you will be providing something similar in the near future. >> I definitely won't be doing a treeview in the near future. Most of the controls that I've got in mind are simple ones. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
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